Comments on: I Win, 4dBird Wins

By: MrGoss

MrGoss — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:45:00 +0000

I agree with your call. The flat call protects your hand from further action on his part and let’s you look him up for the semi-bluff. I had him on a busted flush draw or straight draw as you surmised. I think his pot bet on fourth street was because he thought the 4 was a scare card instead of a card that improved your hand.

By: Pokerwolf

Pokerwolf — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:27:00 +0000

I can’t see doing anything else but calling in that situation. The bet is too much of a “standard response” for me to be worried that I’m beat.

By: yestbay

yestbay — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:26:00 +0000

mattyebs and kajapoker’s comments, when you put them together, say what I was going to say: you don’t want to raise (or bet) when the only hand that calls is one that beats you. I think your call was correct, because there was a good chance you were still ahead, but why risk the rest of your chips if there are possible better hands out there, which there were? You played it well, IMO.

By: Jestocost

Jestocost — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:16:00 +0000

I like the call. Those low three of a kind hands when you hit a paired board can be chip suckers. They’re frequently good, but much weaker than sets, obv, and can cost you a ton of money if you play them too aggressively. And if there’s a way to lose too much by playing any hand too aggressively, I know a lot about it. I just don’t learn anything as a result.

Congrats.

By: HighOnPoker

HighOnPoker — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:00:00 +0000

I tried to remember what I was thinking during the hand. Initially, all I recalled was that my calls were very fast on the flop and turn. Since then, I’ve rethought it some more and I remember thaton the flop, I didn’t believe him and wanted to see how he would act on the turn. Once I hit the turn, I called quickly because he had established a very clear pot-raise pattern (i.e., flop–>bet pot, turn–>bet pot). I hoped to keep him in that mindset for the river and it worked. River –>bet pot. Only then did I really become worried about a better 4. I didn’t worry about the straight unless he had a double belly buster. That’s ultimately why I called. I was worried about a better 4 and I didn’t need to lose my tourney life over it.

By: KajaPoker

KajaPoker — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:40:00 +0000

not only is it a call only situation, but it's a scary call at best. possible straight, possible better trips and even a possiblity of a boat out there, why risk all your chips?

I think LAG's river bet is very bad here. All he has is 2nd pair crap kicker and he fired two bullets already. He will only get called by a hand that beats him and that's what happened.

I think your call is good.

By: Mattyebs

Mattyebs — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:51:00 +0000

I like the smooth call…chips lost are more valuable than chips gained and ur only going to get called by a monster (or supposed monster) in that spot if you push. A push represents a straight and at the vey least a 4…u lose to any other 4 and any straight will he even call a push with an overpair…top pair…its a limped pot, his hands can have a 4 in them…The call is the right play

By: 4dbirds

4dbirds — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:50:00 +0000

Congrats on your Math finish. I went out somewhere middle of the pack, as usual. I’m thrilled to have won the dirty tagline contest!! Yes, even a middle-aged mother of four can get raunchy. LOL. Thanks much High! My screenname is katiemother on FT.