Comments on: A Thin Line Between Self-Critique and Shame http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:22:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: DP http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5794 DP Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:06:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5794 patch: "We all make mistakes. If we didn't, we'd all be Phil Hellmuth, and who would want to live in that world?<br/><br/>Phil Hellmuth is a great player -- what's your point? patch: “We all make mistakes. If we didn’t, we’d all be Phil Hellmuth, and who would want to live in that world?

Phil Hellmuth is a great player — what’s your point?

]]> By: Julius_Goat http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5793 Julius_Goat Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:05:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5793 I totally disagree with Waffles. I think that Jordan didn't raise with his Aces because he was hoping for a raiser after him to put all in. I mean, after all, this is PLO with deep stacks. I totally disagree with Waffles. I think that Jordan didn’t raise with his Aces because he was hoping for a raiser after him to put all in. I mean, after all, this is PLO with deep stacks.

]]> By: Patch http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5792 Patch Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:50:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5792 I disagree with Hoy. Not with anything he actually said, just in general principle. ;-)<br/><br/>Actually, quite to the contrary, I have to agree with almost everything he said. The ability to look at these plays objectively puts you way ahead. <br/><br/>We all make mistakes. If we didn't, we'd all be Phil Hellmuth, and who would want to live in that world? That you recognize it as a mistake is key to avoiding it in the future.<br/><br/>My biggest objection here is with you begging the question, because you didn't. You <i>raised</i> the question. I would suggest one who uses logic and reason to make a living should know the difference, but, you work within the legal system, so logic and reason are obviously not something you bump into on a regular basis at work.<br/><br/>Mostly kidding, but this begging the question thing is a real pet peeve. Now, excuse me while I go begging for my money back from Neteller. I disagree with Hoy. Not with anything he actually said, just in general principle. ;-)

Actually, quite to the contrary, I have to agree with almost everything he said. The ability to look at these plays objectively puts you way ahead.

We all make mistakes. If we didn’t, we’d all be Phil Hellmuth, and who would want to live in that world? That you recognize it as a mistake is key to avoiding it in the future.

My biggest objection here is with you begging the question, because you didn’t. You raised the question. I would suggest one who uses logic and reason to make a living should know the difference, but, you work within the legal system, so logic and reason are obviously not something you bump into on a regular basis at work.

Mostly kidding, but this begging the question thing is a real pet peeve. Now, excuse me while I go begging for my money back from Neteller.

]]> By: HighOnPoker http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5790 HighOnPoker Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:28:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5790 Woffle, I don't think Hoy is saying that my play was correct. He doesn't discuss the hand at all. He is merely stating that it is good that I can be self-critical of my play. Did I miss something? Woffle, I don’t think Hoy is saying that my play was correct. He doesn’t discuss the hand at all. He is merely stating that it is good that I can be self-critical of my play. Did I miss something?

]]> By: 23skidoo http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5789 23skidoo Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:26:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5789 Man, that is my M.O. for fonkaments.<br/><br/>See you tomorrow. Man, that is my M.O. for fonkaments.

See you tomorrow.

]]> By: SirFWALGMan http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5788 SirFWALGMan Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:25:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5788 I totally disagree with Hoyazo.. I have the same problem as you with laying down small-mid pairs but if you have the stack where the blinds are not bothering you just throw those biatches out. In the long run you will do better.<br/><br/>Caveat to that: If you have such a huge stack that it does not matter if you call then go ahead.<br/><br/>In that situation I totally agree with you that you should have just let it go.. I totally disagree with Hoyazo.. I have the same problem as you with laying down small-mid pairs but if you have the stack where the blinds are not bothering you just throw those biatches out. In the long run you will do better.

Caveat to that: If you have such a huge stack that it does not matter if you call then go ahead.

In that situation I totally agree with you that you should have just let it go..

]]> By: HighOnPoker http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5787 HighOnPoker Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:03:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5787 He had Queens, l'artiste.<br/><br/>Kipper and Hoy, I post here for therapy as much as anything else. I'm glad you both like what you see and I appreciate the positive words. I definitely am not fishing for positive feedback, but when I get it, it can really help me get rid of those dark clouds I allow to surround my head. He had Queens, l’artiste.

Kipper and Hoy, I post here for therapy as much as anything else. I’m glad you both like what you see and I appreciate the positive words. I definitely am not fishing for positive feedback, but when I get it, it can really help me get rid of those dark clouds I allow to surround my head.

]]> By: Hammer Player a.k.a Hoyazo http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5786 Hammer Player a.k.a Hoyazo Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:39:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5786 Well written, Jordan. And in the end neither of those two things are really big deals in the overall scheme of things. I do admire your ability to see a bad play of yours for what it is. Honestly, one of the biggest trends I see among the bloggers is people who make horrible poker plays, and then follow those horrible decisions up by the even worse decisions to defend their indefensible plays with ill-fitting comments like "I had odds" or "I was priced in" or "I had to call". The ability to look at things the way you have in this post automatically puts you ahead of the vast majority of blonkeys out there. Well written, Jordan. And in the end neither of those two things are really big deals in the overall scheme of things. I do admire your ability to see a bad play of yours for what it is. Honestly, one of the biggest trends I see among the bloggers is people who make horrible poker plays, and then follow those horrible decisions up by the even worse decisions to defend their indefensible plays with ill-fitting comments like “I had odds” or “I was priced in” or “I had to call”. The ability to look at things the way you have in this post automatically puts you ahead of the vast majority of blonkeys out there.

]]> By: kipper http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5785 kipper Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:38:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5785 Hey, we all are donkeys at some time or another. Just don't let it become a habitual thing both at the tables and in workplace! But you manned up to both situations and posted it in your blog! Your da Man!<br/><br/>Kipper Hey, we all are donkeys at some time or another. Just don’t let it become a habitual thing both at the tables and in workplace! But you manned up to both situations and posted it in your blog! Your da Man!

Kipper

]]> By: L'artiste http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5784 L'artiste Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:32:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/07/a-thin-line-between-self-critique-and-shame.html#comment-5784 So what did he have? Aces, kings? So what did he have? Aces, kings?

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