Comments on: Another Cash & You Decide #53 http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:22:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Dr Zen http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5636 Dr Zen Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:25:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5636 I'm calling that every day and twice on weekends. Putting him on precisely the hands that beat you is MUBS when there are tons of hands that play it the same but don't beat you. I don't think it's the worst fold ever but you might as well checkfold the flop if you're going to make it. I’m calling that every day and twice on weekends. Putting him on precisely the hands that beat you is MUBS when there are tons of hands that play it the same but don’t beat you. I don’t think it’s the worst fold ever but you might as well checkfold the flop if you’re going to make it.

]]> By: StB http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5631 StB Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:59:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5631 Damn it, Hoy! You beat me to it. I would have pushed on the re-raise, putting the pressure back. Damn it, Hoy! You beat me to it. I would have pushed on the re-raise, putting the pressure back.

]]> By: Gydyon http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5629 Gydyon Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:34:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5629 I am the smart! S M R T!<br/><br/><br/>I don't mind big laydowns, but big laydowns when you've put 1/3 of your stack in with an overpair to the board just don't work in the long term, especially since there's such a large range of hands you could be ahead of.<br/><br/>That said, sweet play by Crazd I am the smart! S M R T!

I don’t mind big laydowns, but big laydowns when you’ve put 1/3 of your stack in with an overpair to the board just don’t work in the long term, especially since there’s such a large range of hands you could be ahead of.

That said, sweet play by Crazd

]]> By: HighOnPoker http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5628 HighOnPoker Tue, 19 Jun 2007 18:58:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5628 Fair enough. That's why I post these things, to get opinions on how to improve in a given situation. <br/><br/>Crazd, I don't think you are crazy for making the play. In fact, I'm impressed.<br/><br/>Hoy, I haven't played with Crazd much, so I didn't know he was a super loose aggressive player. I give him much kudos for his play. Oh, and I'll take critique, but Jordan doesn't do well with being berated. Just keep that in mind for the future.<br/><br/>All that said, I still don't mind my fold, since I believed that I could catch up and find a more certain spot if I was going to commit all my chips. As it were he had a decent amount of outs, three Aces, four 3s, two 4s, and I just couldn't get a good enough read on what hand he actually had. Nice play, Crazd. Fair enough. That’s why I post these things, to get opinions on how to improve in a given situation.

Crazd, I don’t think you are crazy for making the play. In fact, I’m impressed.

Hoy, I haven’t played with Crazd much, so I didn’t know he was a super loose aggressive player. I give him much kudos for his play. Oh, and I’ll take critique, but Jordan doesn’t do well with being berated. Just keep that in mind for the future.

All that said, I still don’t mind my fold, since I believed that I could catch up and find a more certain spot if I was going to commit all my chips. As it were he had a decent amount of outs, three Aces, four 3s, two 4s, and I just couldn’t get a good enough read on what hand he actually had. Nice play, Crazd.

]]> By: Hammer Player a.k.a Hoyazo http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5627 Hammer Player a.k.a Hoyazo Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:58:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5627 I was going to berate you for the fold but then crazd goes and shows what I already suspected, you were surely ahead here. I can't stand that minraise, and while I will use that move on occasion, this is a great example of a bad place to do it IMO. You're putting in about a third of your entire stack on a minraise, in this case with a very strong hand on a very crappy flop, and then you're going to fold to the push from a guy who has repeatedly busted early from blonkaments by overplaying his hands? Bad read my friend. Great play overall on the night, but the minraise stinks and the fold to the push makes me want to cry. Of course this comment seemed more genuine before crazd verified what I already suspected, but if he stacks you there with A3 or some set or something, I say so be it. I think if you're going to fold to that push, then you're just asking for him to push at you with that minraise. Remember, if this is cmitch or lucko or somebody, your fold makes a lot of sense. Against a much looser re-reraising opponent like crazd, you gotta play that one out. I was going to berate you for the fold but then crazd goes and shows what I already suspected, you were surely ahead here. I can’t stand that minraise, and while I will use that move on occasion, this is a great example of a bad place to do it IMO. You’re putting in about a third of your entire stack on a minraise, in this case with a very strong hand on a very crappy flop, and then you’re going to fold to the push from a guy who has repeatedly busted early from blonkaments by overplaying his hands? Bad read my friend. Great play overall on the night, but the minraise stinks and the fold to the push makes me want to cry. Of course this comment seemed more genuine before crazd verified what I already suspected, but if he stacks you there with A3 or some set or something, I say so be it. I think if you’re going to fold to that push, then you’re just asking for him to push at you with that minraise. Remember, if this is cmitch or lucko or somebody, your fold makes a lot of sense. Against a much looser re-reraising opponent like crazd, you gotta play that one out.

]]> By: crazdgamer http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5626 crazdgamer Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:18:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5626 Interesting. <br/><br/>I was getting odds to call from the BB preflop. You'll probably think that I'm a donkey for making this play, but so it goes. My thinking was that you wouldn't call the all-in given the board texture. Against AK, I'm leading, and the only other high pair I'm scared of is AA. Against everything else in your range, I have 9 outs, which isn't too bad. But my main priority was getting you to fold. <br/><br/>*** HOLE CARDS ***<br/>Dealt to crazdgamer [Ah 4c]<br/>smokkee folds<br/>HighOnPoker raises to 150<br/>Wippy1313 has 15 seconds left to act<br/>Wippy1313 folds<br/>BobRespert calls 150<br/>cmitch folds<br/>Papi Justify folds<br/>columbo calls 125<br/>crazdgamer calls 100<br/>*** FLOP *** [2d 5s 4h]<br/>columbo checks<br/>crazdgamer bets 500<br/>HighOnPoker raises to 1,000<br/>BobRespert folds<br/>columbo folds<br/>crazdgamer raises to 3,060, and is all in<br/>HighOnPoker has 15 seconds left to act<br/>smokkee: hammer no goot<br/>HighOnPoker has requested TIME<br/>columbo: hammer always goot<br/>HighOnPoker folds<br/>Uncalled bet of 2,060 returned to crazdgamer<br/>crazdgamer mucks<br/>crazdgamer wins the pot (2,600)<br/>The blinds are now 30/60 Interesting.

I was getting odds to call from the BB preflop. You’ll probably think that I’m a donkey for making this play, but so it goes. My thinking was that you wouldn’t call the all-in given the board texture. Against AK, I’m leading, and the only other high pair I’m scared of is AA. Against everything else in your range, I have 9 outs, which isn’t too bad. But my main priority was getting you to fold.

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to crazdgamer [Ah 4c]
smokkee folds
HighOnPoker raises to 150
Wippy1313 has 15 seconds left to act
Wippy1313 folds
BobRespert calls 150
cmitch folds
Papi Justify folds
columbo calls 125
crazdgamer calls 100
*** FLOP *** [2d 5s 4h]
columbo checks
crazdgamer bets 500
HighOnPoker raises to 1,000
BobRespert folds
columbo folds
crazdgamer raises to 3,060, and is all in
HighOnPoker has 15 seconds left to act
smokkee: hammer no goot
HighOnPoker has requested TIME
columbo: hammer always goot
HighOnPoker folds
Uncalled bet of 2,060 returned to crazdgamer
crazdgamer mucks
crazdgamer wins the pot (2,600)
The blinds are now 30/60

]]> By: TripJax http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5625 TripJax Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:13:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5625 Well done. I believe our race (my 88 vs. AQ) is what boosted you in the right direction. Gotta win those...<br/><br/>Keep it up...you have a hot hand right now and should keep at it. Well done. I believe our race (my 88 vs. AQ) is what boosted you in the right direction. Gotta win those…

Keep it up…you have a hot hand right now and should keep at it.

]]> By: HighOnPoker http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5624 HighOnPoker Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:53:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5624 Gydyon, your points are valid. My "read" was that he wouldn't fire that 2nd bullet if he didn't have a great hand. Maybe he caught on to my overpair, but in these sorts of games, players would routinely go all-in here with KK on that board. I didn't want to risk my entire stack on an overpair, but I may have been overly cautious. I am very curious as to what he actually had. Maybe I'll leave him a comment on his blog requesting his input. Gydyon, your points are valid. My “read” was that he wouldn’t fire that 2nd bullet if he didn’t have a great hand. Maybe he caught on to my overpair, but in these sorts of games, players would routinely go all-in here with KK on that board. I didn’t want to risk my entire stack on an overpair, but I may have been overly cautious. I am very curious as to what he actually had. Maybe I’ll leave him a comment on his blog requesting his input.

]]> By: Gydyon http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5623 Gydyon Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:39:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5623 I don't like the minraise. <br/><br/>Why do you hate that flop? Do you have a read that CrazdGamer would play A3 or 36 in this spot, and not eights, nines, or tens thinking it's a safe flop? <br/><br/>Could he be thinking you can make a big laydown there, reading your minraise as exactly what it smells like, "I want to see where my big pair is" and bluff or semibluff accordingly?<br/><br/>Given the action, I would certainly consider bluffraising in that spot with something like pocket threes <br/><br/>You're getting 2.5 to 1 on your call, and you put 1/3 of your stack in preflop and on the flop. There's no flush draw out there. <br/><br/>I would have a hard time making this fold barring, as I said before, a read. I don’t like the minraise.

Why do you hate that flop? Do you have a read that CrazdGamer would play A3 or 36 in this spot, and not eights, nines, or tens thinking it’s a safe flop?

Could he be thinking you can make a big laydown there, reading your minraise as exactly what it smells like, “I want to see where my big pair is” and bluff or semibluff accordingly?

Given the action, I would certainly consider bluffraising in that spot with something like pocket threes

You’re getting 2.5 to 1 on your call, and you put 1/3 of your stack in preflop and on the flop. There’s no flush draw out there.

I would have a hard time making this fold barring, as I said before, a read.

]]> By: meanhappyguy http://www.highonpoker.com/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5622 meanhappyguy Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:25:00 +0000 http://69.73.186.10/~highonpo/2007/06/another-cash-you-decide-53.html#comment-5622 Damn Ivey!<br/><br/>Good timing on your vacation, I'm leaving Tuesday for a week up in Seattle. I'll be back on the 3rd of July.<br/><br/>Shall we start the chess tourney on the 5th? Or how long are you going to be on your vacation? Damn Ivey!

Good timing on your vacation, I’m leaving Tuesday for a week up in Seattle. I’ll be back on the 3rd of July.

Shall we start the chess tourney on the 5th? Or how long are you going to be on your vacation?

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