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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.highonpoker.com/2006/10/limited-love.html#comment-4544</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 23:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks for the shout-out!&lt;br/&gt;As I was reading this post, I kept thinking to myself that you should have bet the flop. But it turns out that you played the hand perfectly. Very interesting.&lt;br/&gt;Keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks for the shout-out!<br />As I was reading this post, I kept thinking to myself that you should have bet the flop. But it turns out that you played the hand perfectly. Very interesting.<br />Keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.highonpoker.com/2006/10/limited-love.html#comment-4541</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow this doesn&#039;t appear to be a standard line by an aggressive player. Especially in a shorthanded game. Why give free cards here in a HU sitch? Make him pay for his loose calls. TPTK isn&#039;t by any means a monster hand when the big blind is calling with any two s00ted, paint/x, or Ax. Letting him &#039;catch&#039; can cost you big on later streets.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The phrase, &quot;it depends&quot; springs to mind whether it&#039;s right to either fold, call, raise in any given hand in any scenario. I&#039;m also allowing you the leeway of having the &#039;read&#039; here, and that your playing your game and your style. But I&#039;m thnking value betting is the way to go and you &lt;i&gt;may&lt;/i&gt; have missed bets. Giving free cards isn&#039;t being aggressive in my mind.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A BB will generally call very liberally with an Ax, Kx in shorthanded AND full ring games, hoping to spike the Ace or King and possibly trap you on later streets. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Value betting, betting for information and building the pot as in defendingtheblinds reply with a flush draw, is a better way to go in my mind.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(If you have two or more opponents in the hand and are holding a huge nut flush draw, you&#039;re missing out if you aren&#039;t raising and reraising in a loose 2/4 game.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Pokerwolf is also correct. Harman&#039;s stuff on LHE is way good. And to top it off she advocates straight forward play - not FPS stuff (Fancy Play Syndrome).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Personally, looking back I&#039;d love to have won many of the hands on the flop or turn by betting into or reraising, rather than letting someone &lt;b&gt;cath their card&lt;/b&gt; to check raise me on the river with. I&#039;ve lost one too many &quot;big hands&quot; by having too much faith in my AK/Q or even AA/KK and playing a bit too passively with FPS.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Make&#039;em pay!&lt;/b&gt; Limit is about &lt;b&gt;extracting bets&lt;/b&gt; the whole way. Value betting and getting paid off.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Allowing free cards to beat you in a small pot is -EV long term. Some wil say by waiting to bet you&#039;re not giving proper pot odds for your opponent to call with and he&#039;s making a mistake by calling you there.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Others say he&#039;s making a mistake by initially calling your raise so make him pay the whole way. Compound his mistake by raising the pot and not allowing him the free card to steal the pot from you.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Flashbacks of someone hitting middle or bottom pair and taking one off on the turn to hit two pair and cut my AK/AA down are coming back to haunt me.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m aggressive when I hit or have a big draw with overs and backdoor possiblities and at 2/4 and 3/6 you need to make them pay for their msitakes and misplays. Not allow them to catch up.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Well thought out hand though. Keep it up, good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow this doesn&#8217;t appear to be a standard line by an aggressive player. Especially in a shorthanded game. Why give free cards here in a HU sitch? Make him pay for his loose calls. TPTK isn&#8217;t by any means a monster hand when the big blind is calling with any two s00ted, paint/x, or Ax. Letting him &#8216;catch&#8217; can cost you big on later streets.</p>
<p>The phrase, &#8220;it depends&#8221; springs to mind whether it&#8217;s right to either fold, call, raise in any given hand in any scenario. I&#8217;m also allowing you the leeway of having the &#8216;read&#8217; here, and that your playing your game and your style. But I&#8217;m thnking value betting is the way to go and you <i>may</i> have missed bets. Giving free cards isn&#8217;t being aggressive in my mind.</p>
<p>A BB will generally call very liberally with an Ax, Kx in shorthanded AND full ring games, hoping to spike the Ace or King and possibly trap you on later streets. </p>
<p>Value betting, betting for information and building the pot as in defendingtheblinds reply with a flush draw, is a better way to go in my mind.</p>
<p>(If you have two or more opponents in the hand and are holding a huge nut flush draw, you&#8217;re missing out if you aren&#8217;t raising and reraising in a loose 2/4 game.)</p>
<p>Pokerwolf is also correct. Harman&#8217;s stuff on LHE is way good. And to top it off she advocates straight forward play &#8211; not FPS stuff (Fancy Play Syndrome).</p>
<p>Personally, looking back I&#8217;d love to have won many of the hands on the flop or turn by betting into or reraising, rather than letting someone <b>cath their card</b> to check raise me on the river with. I&#8217;ve lost one too many &#8220;big hands&#8221; by having too much faith in my AK/Q or even AA/KK and playing a bit too passively with FPS.</p>
<p><b>Make&#8217;em pay!</b> Limit is about <b>extracting bets</b> the whole way. Value betting and getting paid off.</p>
<p>Allowing free cards to beat you in a small pot is -EV long term. Some wil say by waiting to bet you&#8217;re not giving proper pot odds for your opponent to call with and he&#8217;s making a mistake by calling you there.</p>
<p>Others say he&#8217;s making a mistake by initially calling your raise so make him pay the whole way. Compound his mistake by raising the pot and not allowing him the free card to steal the pot from you.</p>
<p>Flashbacks of someone hitting middle or bottom pair and taking one off on the turn to hit two pair and cut my AK/AA down are coming back to haunt me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m aggressive when I hit or have a big draw with overs and backdoor possiblities and at 2/4 and 3/6 you need to make them pay for their msitakes and misplays. Not allow them to catch up.</p>
<p>Well thought out hand though. Keep it up, good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: DefendTheBlinds</title>
		<link>http://www.highonpoker.com/2006/10/limited-love.html#comment-4533</link>
		<dc:creator>DefendTheBlinds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, I wrote something similar this morning, only on a broader scale. Bluff money vs. call money.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You aren&#039;t getting any call money if you bet the flop or turn, but you let him catch up. His river call was stupid, but it earned you an extra big bet. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Pokerwolf - I play limit aggressively, too. I&#039;ll cap a flush draw on the flop to disguise hand strength, etc. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I watch a lot of the higher stakes games on FTP and it&#039;s helped me a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I wrote something similar this morning, only on a broader scale. Bluff money vs. call money.</p>
<p>You aren&#8217;t getting any call money if you bet the flop or turn, but you let him catch up. His river call was stupid, but it earned you an extra big bet. </p>
<p>Pokerwolf &#8211; I play limit aggressively, too. I&#8217;ll cap a flush draw on the flop to disguise hand strength, etc. </p>
<p>I watch a lot of the higher stakes games on FTP and it&#8217;s helped me a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Pokerwolf</title>
		<link>http://www.highonpoker.com/2006/10/limited-love.html#comment-4532</link>
		<dc:creator>Pokerwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to play more aggressively when I play limit. If you aren&#039;t already doing so, bet your draws as often as possible. That not only camoflagues your hand (for example, if the board reads Ks 9h 4s) and if you hit, your opponent, if they&#039;re even paying attention, will probably put you on a pair of kings. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Depending on how the table has been reacting, I usually play everything fairly straight forward. Check-raising becomes a much bigger weapon in LHE. The only time I tend to slowplay is when I know I&#039;m way ahead.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you haven&#039;t read it already, go read Jen Harman&#039;s section on LHE in Super System 2. TONS of great advice there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to play more aggressively when I play limit. If you aren&#8217;t already doing so, bet your draws as often as possible. That not only camoflagues your hand (for example, if the board reads Ks 9h 4s) and if you hit, your opponent, if they&#8217;re even paying attention, will probably put you on a pair of kings. </p>
<p>Depending on how the table has been reacting, I usually play everything fairly straight forward. Check-raising becomes a much bigger weapon in LHE. The only time I tend to slowplay is when I know I&#8217;m way ahead.  </p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t read it already, go read Jen Harman&#8217;s section on LHE in Super System 2. TONS of great advice there.</p>
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